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TRAS LAS ELECCIONES LEGISLATIVAS EN PORTUGAL:Una nueva izquierda emerge en Europa

16 octubre 2015
FRANCE INTER PARÍS

**Jean-François Rochez/CartoonMovement**

El resultado de las elecciones del 4 de octubre confirma una tendencia de fondo en el seno de la izquierda europea: la afirmación de partidos tan hostiles a las políticas de austeridad como europeístas.

Bernard Guetta

Para Portugal, la alternativa era clara. O la saliente coalición de derecha lograba aliarse con los socialistas después de perder el 4 de octubre la mayoría absoluta, o los socialistas abrían una nueva página política en Lisboa, acercándose al Bloque de Izquierda para gobernar a esta nueva izquierda portuguesa próxima a Syriza y a Podemos.

Hasta hace pocos días, nadie habría apostado por esta segunda hipótesis. Los socialistas portugueses parecían destinados a formar una gran coalición con la derecha, como existen ya varias de este tipo en la Unión y en particular en Alemania. Estaba casi escrito, pero ahora, después de largas consultas con el Bloque de Izquierda, el líder de los socialistas, Antonio Costa, anunció que había llegado a "puntos de convergencia" con dicho bloque.

"Nuestra preocupación central", añadió, "es lograr una solución estable, creíble y coherente que exprese la voluntad de la mayoría de los portugueses y la satisfacción de las necesidades del país (que son) defender los servicios públicos, pasar la página de la austeridad y el respeto a los compromisos internacionales de Portugal".

La nueva izquierda, por su parte, presenta las cosas como ya hechas. "Este es el fin del Gobierno Coelho", dijo su portavoz, explicando que el primer ministro saliente ya no tiene una mayoría en el Parlamento y que no habría otra solución que no pueda ser la "alternativa que el país necesita". La nueva izquierda está, en otras palabras, más que dispuesta para gobernar con los socialistas y, que esto se lleve a cabo o no, esta única posibilidad, el hecho de que sea considerada como una posibilidad seri, refleja la amplitud y profundidad de los acontecimientos políticos en curso en Europa.

En un año, la Unión ha asistido sucesivamente a la aparición de Podemos que se ha inscrito sólidamente dentro del panorama político español, aunque este movimiento se haya ahora estancado en las encuestas. Luego fue la victoria deSyriza y su confirmación por los votantes griegos el mes pasado. En paralelo, los militantes y simpatizantes del Partido Laborista británico y simpatizantes han puesto a su cabeza a un hombre, Jeremy Corbyn, que es partidario declarado de las inversiones colectivas y de la redistribución de la riqueza a través de los impuestos y es ahora la nueva izquierda portuguesa la que podría – en condicional, vamos a ver – acceder a los puestos de mando.

Una nueva izquierda europea se está ahora afirmando, tan hostil a toda idea de salida de la Unión como a las políticas económicas impuestas por la derecha europea, actualmente mayoritaria en los gobiernos de los Veintiocho. Una escena política paneuropea que se llena de vida y los debates que augura este despertar son la mejor de las cosas posibles para la reactivación y consolidación de la Unión.

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SUS COMENTARIOS (47)

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on_ice_skates1552758 16.10.2015 | 22:42 Link Recomendado

A new European left is being forged, as hostile to any thought of leaving the EU as to the economic policies brought in by Europe’s right-wing parties, which currently form a majority among the 28 member states.

A "European left" is an oxymoron. The left and Europe have become incompatible terms.

The only serious case among those mentioned above is Corbyn, precisely because he is not necessarily "hostile to any thought of leaving the EU".
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NunoD2691731 16.10.2015 | 23:06 Link Recomendado

The Portuguese Communist Party is extremely euroskeptical, the most euroskeptical of all Portuguese parties. It openly supports Portugal out of EZ and was against EU accession in 86. The Left Block has been a generally pro-EU party but has been getting a more and more skeptical view over the years. PS needs the support of both of them to form a government.
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Lx212357989 17.10.2015 | 15:41 Link Recomendado

I read this article much more like wishful thinking from the part of the articulist than as an analysis to the situation in Portugal. As NunoD stated, the communists are needed to any agreement that puts the socialists in government and they are openly anti-EU and anti-NATO, and the left block, which is not a "new party" as said in the article but exists as one of the major political parties in Portugal for at least 20 years, is becoming increasingly anti-europeans, or at least anti-euro. Anyway, the leaders of both parties come to say they will support a socialist government without discussing Portugal stay in the EZ, so for now the exit of the euro is not at the table. But this is an historical fact on it's on in Portugal, that the two parties on the left of the socialists are available to support or even integrate a socialist government. Situation is very confusing here now, with the right wing parties almost to the point of histery with the prospect of seeing the communists in the governmemt. It's being in one way very funny, on the other a bit disturbing to read some articles in the portuguese press, 80% of it aligned with right wing policies, fommenting the exclusion of 20% of portuguese voters, the ones who voted on the left wing parties, of the hypothesis of voting for a government solution. It seems democracy is not a primal value for those who defend the EU.
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on_ice_skates1552758 17.10.2015 | 23:05 Link Recomendado

Western Europe knows nothing about reality of socialism and definite zero about communist reality, the biggest evil, ever created on earth.

Kuba, I am just curious, tell me, were you born under communism? Do you have memories from that era? What do you remember? Do you have any clear picture how life under that system was?

You rail against things like immigration, multiculturalism, LGBT, Muslims, etc. that would be unthinkable in communist Poland. Are you aware of this?
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aditec86601414 18.10.2015 | 00:10 Link Recomendado

Die linken Bewegungen Südeuropas haben sich auf die Austerität eingeschossen. Sie sind also gegen Haushaltsdisziplin, sparsame Verwendung staatlicher Mittel und einen nach Möglichkeit ausgeglichenen Haushalt. Sie wollen also, dass ihre Staaten dauerhaft mehr ausgeben als ihre Volkswirtschaften verdienen. Die Mehrausgaben müssen aber durch neue Kredite finanziert werden. Gerade dieses Verhalten hat zu der Überschuldung Südeuropas und ihrer wirtschaftlichen Misere geführt. Die Linken glauben allen Ernstes, dass noch mehr Verschuldung ihre Länder ins gelobte Land des Wirtschaftswachstum führt. Ohne die EZB und ohne die Garantien Deutschlands würden ihre Zinsen schon heute in die Höhe schnellen. Sie wären dann nicht mehr fähig, ihre Schuldenlasten zu bezahlen und müssten ihren Bankrott erklären.

Es gab in Südeuropa noch nie eine Politik der Austerität. Auch heute nicht! Kein südeuropäischer Staatshaushalt ist ausgeglichen. Fast alle haben Haushaltsdefizite, die weit über die erlaubten 3% der Maastricht-Regel liegen. Die Schuldenquoten steigen beständig. Und dieser Prozess soll nach dem Willen den Linken noch beschleunigt werden? Am Ende kann doch nur der Staatsbankrott drohen.
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aditec86601414 18.10.2015 | 00:32 Link Recomendado

Rich are getting richer – no matter who is in power.

Ich erinnere mich an einen Spruch: Im Kapitalismus sind die Reichen mächtig und im Sozialismus sind die Mächtigen reich.

In keinem System wird man das Einkommens- und Vermögensgefälle nivellieren können. Der Staat kann nur durch Eingriffe Korrekturen vornehmen. Der Staat und die Gesellschaft sollten sicherstellen, dass am wirtschaftlichen Erfolg alle nach ihrer erbrachten Leistung beteiligt werden. Der Staatsollte den Ordnungsrahmen für eine funktionierende Marktwirtschaft setzen. Er sollte aber vermeiden, als Akteur im Marktgeschehen mitzumischen, weil politische Vorlieben sehr rasch zu Fehlentwicklungen und einer Ressourcenverschwendung führen. Wohin die Staatswirtschaft der real sozialistischen Länder des Ostblocks geführt hat, kann jedermann studieren. Nicht zuletzt wegen seiner ökonomischen Misswirtschaft ist das Sowjetsystem zusammengebrochen.
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Hipatia833161 18.10.2015 | 19:28 corregido 19:53 Link Recomendado

People move very slowly. Now we have the phenomenon of air conditioning, a single climate.

You can forget this idea, the climate is a factor that allows improved productivity and quality in the products, my province is an example of capitalism raised if same that invoice to entire Europe.

http://www.elalmeria.es/article/agriculturadealmeria/1601899/almeria/es/...

But that don't like to the Socialism, because if you do not depend on subsidies, that they controls, you do not to vote them, like into the rest of the provinces of Andalusia.

The problem from the transition parties has been of bad political management, even with deceit, because if there was not taking place a crisis of this size the nationalistic pretensions would not ma sense. It is a problem imposed by certain parties, the socialism does poors, in order that there could be class struggle, or "brings" them of out, this way believe the conditions of the crisis in order that the communism prospers, because of it the voters now demand a regeneration of the politicians.

I cannot speak for Portutal, or Greece, but the Spanish voter is not silly, he is punishing to the bipartisanship and "Podemos" is falling, we continue looking for more centered options, which do not have a corrupt past. I see a good symptom of which a change is taking place to leave behind the crisis. Until you do not diagnose the problem well, you cannot find the good solution,
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carrico1659253 18.10.2015 | 21:21 Link Recomendado

...In Kapitalismus sind die Reichen machtig, und in Sozialismus sind die Machtigen reich.

Und in der Mitte? Nur verloren?
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nortada429136 19.10.2015 | 07:35 Link Recomendado

Situation is very confusing here now, with the right wing parties almost to the point of histery with the prospect of seeing the communists in the governmemt. It's being in one way very funny, on the other a bit disturbing to read some articles in the portuguese press, 80% of it aligned with right wing policies, fommenting the exclusion of 20% of portuguese voters, the ones who voted on the left wing parties, of the hypothesis of voting for a government solution. It seems democracy is not a primal value for those who defend the EU.

Como disse o Jeronimo "Um problema que se revela cada vez mais sério e com consequências preocupantes na democracia portuguesa é este domínio quase absoluto dos grandes interesses e dos grupos económicos e dos seus arautos no sistema mediático, onde a pluralidade de opinião se vem extinguindo e a isenção no comentário político-ideológico é uma raridade. Estalou o verniz democrático a muitos perante a possibilidade de um governo à esquerda." O verniz nacional, que o internacional já tinha estalado com a Grécia.
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alcofribas637185 19.10.2015 | 09:37 Link Recomendado

The problem is in the public sector and this has been followed borrowing under the advice of Keynes.

Sorry, don't invocate Keynes for what has been done inside the euro zone from 1999 to 2015 ! Only private capitals markets were free, while public services were constantly devaluated in providence States, what causes the huge raise of fascist trends in the concerned countries. In France, Sweden, Danemark or Finland, it's exactly because a large part of the poorest peoples revenues has been haircut that the vote for xenophobic parties reappears.

Keynes analyzed two things : 1- money isn't neutral at all, but a nuclear economic weapon 2- when a State's economy is in crisis, only one actor can bring up hope and make confidency restart, the State himself (money, budget, tax competences), but only as a counter-crisis actor, as an ecomic pilot. After WWII, it's so that our States rebuild devastated Europe.

But as a counterbalancing actor of private economy, when this sector restarts, the State HAS to slow down his one influence of pilot and just HAS to rule capitalism not to let it concentrate too much capital and decision making in few hands, and assume to manage inequalities resorption, not more. But since 1992, the mainstream economic idea is that States have to be thrown away of economy, have not to rule capitals markets : so the debts crisis was to happen, because deregulated capitalism only works from one speculative crisis to another. Where is the European State ?
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alcofribas637185 19.10.2015 | 18:16 Link Recomendado

Europe has destroyed itself, we should not blame others, definitely not America or Russia but decades of political left in power

The problem with your opinions is that facts show quite the opposite...it's intergovernmental competition between 28 States members that both configured an irrealistic structure of power including major non democratic defaults (the executive power makes legislation !), and of course, no cooperation between competitors ! It's not at all the leftist wing who owns Commission or ECB's powers for decades, but the right one !

So, our best citizens' lifes destroyers are our own 28 States !

They simply are oldfashioned institutions working to preserve themselves from a larger sovereignty able to destroy poverty everywhere and restore human dignities with a great respect of the european citizens lifes.

Of course neither our 28 small States or the stupid intergovernmental EU can balance PRC ou Russia or USA agressive and coherent attacks. Only USE United States of Europe can do that.
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Hipatia833161 19.10.2015 | 21:32 Link Recomendado

...and simultaneously decide to enforce austerity to drive to suicide thousands of european citizens ?

When the salary is reduced to pay more taxes, first thing that is lost is the ability to save or invest for the future of these workers.

If a State takes implicitly, together their competence to tax the power of spending, with little real chance of actual control over it by the citizens, thus allowing the abuse. When a Government, whatever, acts with intent first thing sure is disable to justice and of controlling the media to not have replica, it is not new in history.

This leads to the State to act with absolute liberalism, even if it is on the left (an oxymoron), if it behaves also permissible with big investors, rather than taking risks when they lose transferred it to the citizens by means of those politicians, then "shut down and let's go".

Savings banck in Spain generated a debt, but not the depositors, it was the politicians who placed her "friends",(no selection for its ability) to the front of the Saving Bank and that they lent to the State or large builders, also among friends, today millionaires, the losses are which have rescued then all. Austerity subtract capacity for saving the citizen, but not conditions politician in expenditure, because among counterparts when a Government does not want to reduce the State with duplicate expenses, they excuse saying that it interferes with their "skills".
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selber4127938 20.10.2015 | 09:15 corregido 09:19 Link Recomendado

. I was amazed to find out that pensions were invented by Bismarck in 1889,

Bismarck has also introduced compulsory education and banned child labor. Even as the first. Perhaps an important thing for Germany's economic rise.

Nevertheless, I think for the weak left in West Germany, the clearly defined enemy Soviet Union is for mainly responsible. The cut between the blocks went exactly through Germany. The Left was not greatly missed because the established parties were very social, and the German model of "social market economy" was introduced. For a high standard of living – the rise of " Die Grünen " shows that the rebels are more about the environment worried as abaut social justice. That was different in poorer countries. With the 68ers came in principle a leftist movement to power, which acts until today. Especially with view on the refugee issue. But this movement has a different focus than the traditional left, they originated from a generational conflict between the NS – generation and their children. It is a rejection of the German State, a rejection of patriotism – left or right does not matter.
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Marvin954156 20.10.2015 | 12:09 Link Recomendado

Anti-Austerity = wir wollen mehr Geld ausgeben und noch weniger dafür von unseren internationalen Verpflichtungen, die wir eingegangen sind, umsetzen. Weil man uns das einfach nicht lässt suchen wir uns eine Sockenpuppe, irgend ein anderer Staat wie Deutschland ist schuld und wenn du uns wählst, ändern wir auch nichts daran, aber füttern Euch mit Populismus, damit ihr versteht wie übel die Anderen mit uns Ausgebeuteten umspringen, und was für eine Unverschämtheit das von der EU ist auf Regeln zu beharren, und wenn ihr uns dann noch mal wählt, sendet das ein super starkes Signal, dass unsere Volkswirtschaft crazy ist, und das macht unser Land für das internationale Kapital noch attraktiver...
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Kuba3737895 16.10.2015 | 11:23 Link

How good, that Portugal is far away from here.
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on_ice_skates1552758 16.10.2015 | 23:47 Link

The Portuguese Communist Party is extremely euroskeptical, the most euroskeptical of all Portuguese parties. It openly supports Portugal out of EZ and was against EU accession in 86. The Left Block has been a generally pro-EU party but has been getting a more and more skeptical view over the years.

Good to hear.